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Post by Cleveland Cavaliers on Jul 21, 2009 22:37:54 GMT -5
To Cavs
86 Al Jefferson - $12,000,000-$13,000,000-$14,000,000-$15,000,000 86 Josh Howard; $10,890,000 - $11,835,000 67 Etan Thomas - $7,350,000
Total Incoming: 30.240,000 Total Outgoing: 33.354,142
To Minny
98 LeBron James - $15,779,912- $17,149,243 76 Ben Wallace $10,000,000 2nd Rounder - 2010 - Cavs
Total Incoming: 22.75104 Total Outgoing: 33.354,142
To Dallas
77 Kevin Love - $3,401,040-$3,638,280-$4,609,704-$6,112,464-$6,112,464 75 Anthony Parker - $2,644,230 - $2,855,770 67 Steve Blake- $4,930,000 1st Rounder - 2012 - Cavs Total Incoming: 10.97527 Total Outgoing: 10,890,000
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Post by Cleveland Cavaliers on Jul 21, 2009 22:40:41 GMT -5
I accept, duh
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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Jul 21, 2009 22:41:04 GMT -5
Soooo, to clarify: Cavs trades: LeBron, Big Ben, Anthony Parker, Blake, and a 2nd. Minny trades: Big Al, Love, Etan Thomas Dallas trades: Josh Howard
Where'd the 1st come from? The one going to Dallas.
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Post by Dallas Mavericks on Jul 21, 2009 22:42:24 GMT -5
I accept. I didn't want to do this, but I couldn't have Dirk being my Centre. Once again, I improve my bench, I get a good PG in Steve Blake, plus a pick. haha! you guys probably think I'm crazy.
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Post by Cleveland Cavaliers on Jul 21, 2009 22:42:23 GMT -5
so picky
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Jul 21, 2009 22:42:27 GMT -5
I accept, trading both Al Jefferson and Kevin Love is hard since their two of my favorite players but I believe having LBJ is worth it. Also I think this should help in my pursuit of signing Lamar Odom.
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Post by Sacramento Kings on Jul 21, 2009 22:43:33 GMT -5
Nash-Terry-Howard-Jefferson-Shaq
oh my god...
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Post by Denver Nuggets on Jul 22, 2009 7:48:08 GMT -5
I slept on this deal..
I'm just not sure I can accept it.
I have to reject based on I think Minnesota is making out like a bandit only trading away Kevin Love and Al Jefferson for the games' best player(arguable).
Not that AJeff and KLove aren't good players because they are... Also, Dallas is getting raped in this deal.
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Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Jul 22, 2009 7:49:56 GMT -5
Yeah ill have to think a little more about this deal.... Dallas is not getting a good deal here. let me think about it longer
I see this deal sort of like the Dwill deal.
Dwill (85) for Okafor (80),Felton(76), Henderson(71) is on par with Josh Howard (86) for Love (77), Parker (75), Blake (67)
Numerically Howard is better than Dwill right now and the players offered are less than those offered in the Dwill deal across the board. Based on that, this deal should be rejected....... but i will wait and here others opinions
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Post by Cleveland Cavaliers on Jul 22, 2009 9:22:59 GMT -5
well if someone would like to offer me a better package for Lebron James please do, because i do not see anyone willing to give me what i want. You guys have to figure this, when you trade lebron u will NOT get back equal value at all. Could i of gotten a better offer? yes i could of but no one was willing to give up what i wanted, a true number 1 Big men. I talked to Orlando, just willing to give up howard and an okay SF (which would been hard to deal), Spurs, i could of got Tim Duncan but for his SF i would have to give up shaq, so Bell Wallace as my C? I dont care if i lose in the deal, just look at my lineup now if this deal pass and tell me ur not shitty ur pants Dallas isnt getting a fair deal? okay maybe but rape no way, unless everyone here think kevin love wont be good. As i said in the chat room, whats dirk best position? Center or PF in sims? Its PF, now Love and Play Center and Diaw can play SF.
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Jul 22, 2009 9:37:59 GMT -5
I think when you consider what Dallas needs overall as a team this is a decent deal for him, he gets a pretty good young C (who led all rookies with 33 double doubles) so he can start Dirk at his natural position plus he has Boris Diaw and Jason Richardson so it's not like he's going to have a major hole to fill from trading Howard.
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Post by Orlando Magic on Jul 22, 2009 11:24:11 GMT -5
Why would Dallas do this trade? lol he gets no one in return, Anthony parker is on his downside of his career. and kevin love probably wont even get a rating increase well i good one for a couple of seasons
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Jul 22, 2009 11:28:39 GMT -5
Yeah ill have to think a little more about this deal.... Dallas is not getting a good deal here. let me think about it longer I see this deal sort of like the Dwill deal. Dwill (85) for Okafor (80),Felton(76), Henderson(71) is on par with Josh Howard (86) for Love (77), Parker (75), Blake (67) Numerically Howard is better than Dwill right now and the players offered are less than those offered in the Dwill deal across the board. Based on that, this deal should be rejected....... but i will wait and here others opinions How is Josh Howard numerically better the Daron Williams? Here are their stats from the past season DWill 2008-09 Statistics PPG 19.4 RPG 2.9 APG 10.7 SPG 1.1 BPG 0.3 FG% 0.471 FT% 0.849 3P% 0.310 MPG 36.8 JHo PPG 18.0 RPG 5.1 APG 1.6 SPG 1.1 BPG 0.6 FG% 0.451 FT% 0.782 3P% 0.345 MPG 32.0 Daron Williams is arguably the best PG in the league while Josh Howard is a very good player he's barley a top 5 SF at best.
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Post by Sacramento Kings on Jul 22, 2009 11:31:17 GMT -5
I think he meant the ratings...dwill is 85 and howard is 86 I believe...and IMO dwill is the 2nd best behind chris paul.
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Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Jul 22, 2009 11:31:24 GMT -5
yeah i was talking about ratings in this league..... JHO is an 86, Dwill is an 85. Dwill got much better offer than what is being offered for JHO, and the Dwill deal got laughed out of this section
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Post by Houston Rockets on Jul 22, 2009 11:53:44 GMT -5
I REALLY want to accept this because I think Cleveland will be a lot weaker without Lebron, Minny does make out like a bandit and I would love to pass this trade...but the Dallas part is just not very smart. Kevin Love isn't going to help that much at center, I mean he COULD put Diaw there. I don't know, boy I want to pass it lol...I guess I'm gonna reject it but for the love of god get Dallas a center and do this deal.
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Jul 22, 2009 11:58:23 GMT -5
You guys are really underrating Love and over rating Howard, I have Love as my starting C in NBA Legends and he averages 18pts and 8rbds per game. If needed I could throw in my 2011 1st to go to Dallas.
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Post by Houston Rockets on Jul 22, 2009 12:01:44 GMT -5
You guys are really underrating Love and over rating Howard, I have Love as my starting C in NBA Legends and he averages 18pts and 8rbds per game. If needed I could throw in my 2011 1st to go to Dallas. Because that's all you have....
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Post by Cleveland Cavaliers on Jul 22, 2009 12:01:45 GMT -5
would the pick help yes or no
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Jul 22, 2009 12:01:44 GMT -5
Yeah and you don't think having him play along Dirk isn't going to make things easier for him?
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Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Jul 22, 2009 12:19:03 GMT -5
I thought about it, and i reject this, plus there is already another deal out there.... so i need to reject this anywys
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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Jul 22, 2009 15:04:27 GMT -5
Way to hear my opinion guys. I'll accept on grounds that it's already been rejected. I'll just move it as well I guess.
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