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Post by Detroit Pistons on Aug 5, 2009 23:00:08 GMT -5
Det Gets: 85 | Chauncey Billups - $12,100,000 |$13,150,000 |$14,200,000 85 | Caron Butler - $9,780,970 | $10,561,960 82 | Antawn Jamison - $11,641,095 | $13,358,905 | $15,076,715 71 | Brendan Haywood - $6,000,000
Incoming:$39,522,065 Outgoing:$40,580,940
Wash gets: 86-Carlos Boozer-$12,323,900 79-Rodney Stuckey-$1,805,040--2,767,126--3,868,442 79-Peja Stojakovic-$14,202,000--15,336,000 78-Brad Miller-$12,250,000 NOH 2010 1ST NOH 2010 2ND
Incoming:$40,580,940 Outgoing:$39,522,065
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Post by Washington Wizards on Aug 5, 2009 23:01:44 GMT -5
I accept. I wanted to make my team younger and build around the 3-point shot. Now I have Peja and Mike Miller shooting the 3, with Stuckey running the point and Miller and Boozer down low. It works out well for me, and I get 2 more draft picks. The 12 mil expiring from Brad Miller is nice as well.
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Aug 5, 2009 23:02:42 GMT -5
I accept, It tears me apart to give away Stuckey, but I feel that this team can win now with this deal. Yes Billups and Antawn are older but they still are very skilled and although Butler isnt the best sim player he still is a 85. I also am dealing Boozer because as much as I like having the one big superstar I want to build this team like the 04 Pistons where everyone is strong at every postion.
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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Aug 6, 2009 0:59:45 GMT -5
Uhhh, no. I'm not gonna accept this. Billups is a top 5 PG. Butler is one of the top wings in the league, and Jamison can still play. That's worth more than an expiring big who might not return. A PG who Detroit thinks is God (apparently he got Washington to agree), and 2 aging guys in Peja and Miller. The picks don't make up for it. I don't know/care how anyone else is gonna spin this, but my decision is final. I don't accept.
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Post by Milwaukee Bucks on Aug 6, 2009 2:02:15 GMT -5
Not that I have a say, but I'd veto it if I did.
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Post by Toronto Raptors on Aug 6, 2009 9:10:05 GMT -5
i know im not suppose to do this but washington is raping himself....do i smell tanking?
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Post by Sacramento Kings on Aug 6, 2009 10:33:08 GMT -5
I dont like this...especially for Washington, he is trading all his team for Boozer...Peja might be good in sims but he is old, overpaid and declining pretty fast now...Stuckey might be good, but isnt that great as Detroit might say (at least not yet) Miller is just a expiring that is not worth that, ahd Wash is giving a good expiring too... The picks wont be a top 10-14 for sure IMO...
Billups is a top 5 PG, Butler is a good player and Jamison is having good seasons with Arenas injured...ALL that is too much for an EXPIRING Boozer, old peja and brad miller...
sorry but I dont like it and it shouldnt happen...I reject
BTW Wash just said up there that he wants to make the team younger...trading Butler and getting Peja is definetely what he shouldnt do
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Aug 6, 2009 11:03:17 GMT -5
Hey guys what if we took out Peja and Jamison, I think that would make it mor even
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Post by Denver Nuggets on Aug 6, 2009 14:23:48 GMT -5
I'd reject it without Jamison and Peja in it too.. Peja is the only player he's getting in the deal that has potential to do things in sim leagues.
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Post by Orlando Magic on Aug 6, 2009 14:39:28 GMT -5
are you serious? hell no
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Post by Washington Wizards on Aug 6, 2009 15:06:13 GMT -5
my fault on this one. I haven't done an NBA sim league in over 2 years, and that one was played on fbb. If anyone wants, they can always give me a little advice on some players since I saw someone say that this player or that player never does well in sims. Just so I can sorta catch up on everything. Again, my fault for this one...I felt I was getting a solid deal here.
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Post by aww you mad? on Aug 6, 2009 15:17:26 GMT -5
I think you guys are way to into players who do well in sims and all that. Melo got traded 4-5 times and is doing good in LAC. Josh Howard was literally handed to me and hes in the top 10 of scoring.
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Post by Milwaukee Bucks on Aug 6, 2009 15:47:46 GMT -5
Duh Bulls, Josh Howard is only good cause hes the only scoring threat. See: Smith, J.R.
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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Aug 6, 2009 16:04:05 GMT -5
Hey guys what if we took out Peja and Jamison, I think that would make it mor even As a staff member, if you feel that you're in a trade so uneven that you have the need to take out players to make it fair, the trade never should've been posted in the first place.
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Post by Oklahoma City Thunder on Aug 6, 2009 23:14:49 GMT -5
I'll reject this trade as well. Although I also don't take that much into account about "these players do well in sims" etc...I feel that is kind of out of hand and not always accurate. I look at real life age and talent for the most part, with a taste of ratings of course. I just don't think this is that good of a deal for Washington at all.
Reject
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Post by New Orleans Hornets on Aug 7, 2009 0:31:14 GMT -5
Lol nevermind that sim player garbage, just go on real nba talent...and what u think would work.
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Post by Houston Rockets on Aug 7, 2009 0:52:48 GMT -5
props to WAS for getting DET to trade Stuckey, but I gotta reject as well. Yall can try again and I'll re think it but this is a no go.
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